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New SMG-boy
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posted 12-22-2001 02:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just got my SMG-equpiped E46 M3. It's fantastic. A bit wierd getting off the line and I haven't tried all of the various "modes" yet - the auto-mode is clunky and it is clearly NOT an automatic. I only have 89 miles on the car so far... The dealer I purchased the car from (in L.A.) has six 6-speed cars and nine used E46 M3s... and noted that they haven't sold a non-SMG car in five weeks. The used ones will expand further as most of the incoming SMGs are for people who already own M3s - and are trading them.

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DB

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mmbarnes9
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posted 12-27-2001 05:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i picked up my M3 with SMG today and it just rocks! sure, it's a bit of a bumpy ride, and the gas mileage is horrific, but what a car! i know this is dumb, but somewhere i saw a M3 keychain that had a mini grill (like on the side intakes) on it, but i can't find it anywhere and BMW must not make it because they don't have it and haven't heard of it. if you know about it, please e-mail me! (barnes@lhsoc.org) thanx!

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Paparazzi
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posted 12-27-2001 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paparazzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which dealer is that? There are many new and used E46 M3's not because of SMG but because of the Tech-bust, "dot-gones" and those reports about the "noise" coming from the rear of the car.

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Originally posted by New SMG-boy:
... The dealer I purchased the car from (in L.A.) has six 6-speed cars and nine used E46 M3s... and noted that they haven't sold a non-SMG car in five weeks. The used ones will expand further as most of the incoming SMGs are for people who already own M3s - and are trading them.

FYI -

DB


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Scott Welker
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posted 01-17-2002 08:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am breaking in my '02 M3 Coupe which I equipped with every option but the 19" wheels and sunroof. I'm military overseas, so that's probably why the 19" wheels were available here (didn't know they weren't in the US). I was also allowed to add GPS Nav without the sunroof, and get a color combo not offered in the US (Topaz Blue plus cinnamon leather...very nice). I also got a discount from MSRP...it's unconscionable what dealers are getting away with in the USA.

I've been learning the ins and outs of the SMG II, and comparing it with my buddy Rolf's (who has a sliver M3 equipped much the same as mine). He allowed me to *ahem* borrow the local BMW club copies of the GPS discs for the European continent, helped me find a mechanic who actually owns an M3, etc...and here are some of my personal conclusions on SMG that you may like.

1) My car shift just as fast as Rolf's. As far as I can tell, Europe's "S6" mode is the same as our "S5". My car shifts every bit as fast as Rolf's. In order to get the tranny to do that, however, you need to be driving very agressively. The car takes it's own sweet time in city traffic, no matter what mode you're in. This isn't scientific, I didn't get out my cesium clock to check variations from 0.8 seconds, but it's perceptibly the same.

2) The car WILL work pretty much like an automatic if you want it to...this was a big issue for my wife who cruises (at high speeds) but doesn't drive it hard in the hills like I do...or at least I will when it's properly broken in. If I'm able to get the same 1/4 mile time as Rolf, discussion over.

3) I've tried Rolf's Launch Control and it's not that impressive. I'm still breaking mine in, but I have no doubt I'll be able to accomplish exactly the same thing without the computer's help. He and I were both able to match (by our own stopwatches) with LC off or on. The only difference we noted was that the initial RPM of 3800 or so with LC on isn't there with it off. It's about like stepping on the brake and the gas at the same time in a normal manual car...your RPMs don't dip QUITE as much when you bolt from the line. With DSC on, the tires chirp just a bit when you upshift each time...with DSC off it took several tries to keep from spinning out ruthlessly at each start and shift. You really have to feather the throttle carefully...and it's faster if you do. DSC made it a bit slower (.5sec or so) for the 1/4 mile than we could accomplish on our own after lots of practice but it also was saving the tires bigtime! What I imagine is that with him in S6 and me in S5, we'll be neck and neck in the quarter. With his LC, he'll get out of the blocks a smidge faster, and finish the quarter mile about a wheel ahead. Of course I weigh 10 pounds more than Rolf, so that may make more difference. Will report back in the spring.

4) I believe I know why BMW left LC off US models. Over here, they will totally void the warranty, on the WHOLE CAR, if you exceed 40 LC operations in total. Ever. I don't think that would stand up in court in the USA. You blow the clutch by starting in LC 150 times in a month, and then go to the dealer who tells you "No way"...that makes some sense. But imagine doing that, paying for the clutch yourself, then bringing it back with a cracked block and them still saying "NO WAY"...they'd get sued, and some lilly-livered judge would back the owner. That is just an opinion, but living over here and chatting with the locals has taught me that Germans are totally unimpressed with the degree to which Americans expect not to be responsible for themselves. I wouldn't be surprised at all if that attitude went all the way to the boardroom in Munich.

Now to figure out new ways to persuade myself not to let the car over 106 mph on the autobahn...

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Ryan C
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posted 01-18-2002 07:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scott, drop me a line if you get a chance. I'm active duty Navy and looking to place an order under Military sales within the next month. I had a couple questions that maybe you could help with. The info regarding militry sales is pretty sparse. My E-mail is: miata_10am@yahoo.com Thanks in advance!!!

Ryan

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neelsingh
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posted 01-18-2002 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for neelsingh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you guys help me, I am writing from Canada. I work in States and live in CDN. Does anyone know when the SMG II is going to be realeased in Canada. I have being to BMW Canada and saw the car, and placed an order. But they say only when the press releases the car. Any hints

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Richpull
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posted 01-22-2002 08:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I live in New Jersey, the East coast of the US for the foreigners. I called up a local (read: small) BMW dealership who has a SMG equipped convertible in yellow metallic, with the navigation screen, and the HK audio system for 60K asking price. That price is probobly negotiable considering they have 2 m3's and 2 m5's in and they are small and having biginventory is the death of a small business.

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SMG_Imola
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posted 01-22-2002 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SMG_Imola     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if anyone has already placed this link here, but here is a great article from R&T.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/RoadAndTrack/technical/0102_changing_shifting_patterns_p1.html

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bmwownertobeinaugust
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posted 03-13-2002 01:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes the SMG II will is ready! I ahve ordered one in blue at Chris BMW. They gave me a good deal for the package I ordered! I can't wait until November. Until then, I will keep you informed once I get it.

P.S. I heard that the warranty will be voided if an SMG II launches their car more then 15 times. is this true?

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M3
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posted 03-14-2002 10:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Was this a delayed response??? I hope you don't mean Nov 2002....they'll have SMG III by the time you get your car.

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