|
M3 Forum
![]() E36 M3 (1991-1999)
![]() Need Info on M3
|
| next newest topic | next oldest topic |
| Author | Topic: Need Info on M3 |
|
Berky Junior Member Posts: 5 |
Hi, My name is Matt and i am in the market for buying and M3 very soon. i was wondering if somebody could please answer a few of my questions...i am looking for and M3 between the years of 95' and 97', in your opionion which is the best model and why? out of all the M3's which is the fastest? i live in the US and here some say that the 4 door sedan with a 5-speed is 0-60 in 5.5 with a 14.0 quarter mile time? is this accurate? is the 2-door car with the sport package faster and does it handle better? i was also looking for a few not TOO expesive things to upgrade the horse power by about 50 or so. i just want to be able to race trans am's, SS's and mustang cobras and feel confident to win every time. i would like to car to run in mid to low 13's...can someone please help me out with my questions, it would be greatly appreciated? Matt IP: Logged |
|
boskone Junior Member Posts: 4 |
Hi Matt, I just got my 95 M3 (first BMW ever). I have to say it is an excellent car. There's plenty of torque around town at low RPM's, and it's really respectable in the informal "I bet I can beat you to the next light" games. BUT, it is probably not the best choice if you are looking for a 1/4 mile car. Again, I love my car and came from a "muscle car" background... It's just a different type of power and perfomance. If you want to do a lot of drag racing, you might reconsider, but if you are looking for an extremely elegant, powerfull and well balanced sports car that is still great to get to work in, then an M3 is probably a great choice for you. The 0-60's tend to vary between 5.5 and 6.2 depending on the model and year of the car. The later cars were heavier. My 95 is 3175 lbs, but I think the 99's were around 3600. It's all a trade off, as the 96 and up models are available as 4 doors which is very convenient and still very sporty. As for horsepower, the cheap things to do are to get the Conforti chip $250 www.turnermotorsports.com (19 HP) and the cold air intake (5 HP??). There are tons of mods available, but these are very common, easy on the vehicle, and yield decent returns for your $$$. Hope this helps.. ------------------ IP: Logged |
|
Berky Junior Member Posts: 5 |
hey Derick, thanks for replying to my message. would you mind telling me some specifics on your M3 like how many doors, is it a 5-speed, sport package? how fast 0-60 is your car...what does your car run the 1/4 mile in? which are the faster ones the newer ones or the older ones like yours? thanks for your time. Matt IP: Logged |
|
boskone Junior Member Posts: 4 |
Hi! It's a 5 speed. I don't believe it's a "sport package". I think the only real option was for the luxury package (which I do not have), but you would probably not want a luxury package as it adds weight. I don't know what my 0-60's and 1/4 mile times are as I've only had the car 9 glorious days so far. It's a 2 door, the 95's are two door only, the later years give you choices as far as 2 or 4 door. The 95 is the only year with the 3.0L engine. The 96-99 have a 3.2L that puts out the same amount of power. The 95 has OBD-1 engine controls and is able to get 240HP from the 3L, the 96 to 99 have OBD-2 engine controls that do add some stuff, but make the same horsepower out of a slightly larger motor. HOWEVER, the 3.2L is supposed to have a bit more low end torque, which could help in drag racing type stuff. The newer machines also offer some traction control and other goodies that are not available on the 95's. (but this increases the weight of the car, thereby hurting acceleration.) I think the 95 is a good collector year because the style was only offered one year, they are affordable, and they are easier to wring more power out of. (I'm told.) Good hunting! ------------------ IP: Logged |
|
Battman Junior Member Posts: 3 |
This is an old post, but I just found this site, so.... I would really have to agree with Boskone, that the M3, while an amazing car, is not the greatest drag vehicle around. You could probably make it one, but it would set you back quite a few $$$$. I have a '95 5-spd. I've never taken it to the drag strip or anything, but the car magazines (depending on which one you read) rate the 0-60 at 5.5 to low the 6's and the 1/4 mile at 14s. I traded in a '93 RX-7 (255hp twin turbo) for my M3. The RX-7 was supposed to hit 0-60 in the high 4's, and I believe it. Based on that, I would put my M3 in the low 6's. My ex-RX-7 honestly beat my M3 in all performance catagories, but was overall an inferior car. The performance was amazing, but I'd take my M3 any day. I have been pondering tuning the M3 a bit (I miss those sub 5s 0-60 times), but I've found it a rather expensive car to tune. I bought an air intake kit from BMPD, but haven't done much else. I'm thinking about a Dinan chip and a larger throttle body, but I still don't think I'll match my RX-7 without adding a supercharger or something. The cheapest one I've found is still around $4k! If you are deadset on having a dragster, you may want to consider an RX-7, a Supra or a new Vette. These cars are hard to beat in terms of bang for the buck and it's tough to find too many things on the road today that can beat them at the stop light. Good luck, Battman IP: Logged |
|
Berky Junior Member Posts: 5 |
Hey Jeff, thanks a lot for your info. for what reason's would you rather have your M3 over your rx-7? i have heard many great things about the mazda. do you really think that the RX-7 is that much faster of a car? i have heard in the same magazines, that an M3 is 0-60 in 5.5 as the RX-7 hits 60 in 5.0. do you in terms of day by day driving consider your BMW to be even "fast"? as in feel confortable racing an automatic trans am or something of the sort? and another thing is that i have heard the M3 is the ultimate in handling. in 97' it was awarded "best handling car at any price" do you think your mazda handled better than the M3 honestly? if you could tell me some reasons why you like your M3 so much better it would greatly help me on my M3 hunt. thanks a lot! Matt. IP: Logged |
|
evannguyen Member Posts: 14 |
Hi all, I've driven both cars and I do agree that the RX-7 is the faster of the two, besides what it says in the spec sheets. If I wanted a fast car, the RX-7 would by my pick. However, I would pick the M3 over the RX-7 for these reasons: If you have to decide between an M3 and any other car(s), remember that the M3 god is looking down on you. You better make the right decision or else... =) I myself drive a 5-speed '97 Sedan. So far I've beaten my neighbor's boxster and my other neighbor's audi s4 (with stage II turbo) in the "red light to red light" race. I haven't made any modification to my car although I am saving up for a Dinan chip and air intake. So far the only reason I haven't upgraded is because I don't like the car being too loud. That's so... Honda. =) If anything, you should consider your budget. I would have gotten a '95 model but they didn't start making sedans until '97. Good luck on your quest. IP: Logged |
|
Frank Administrator Posts: 207 |
Turbos over a high perf straight six...NEVER!!! All very fast cars and fairly reliable I think...for turbos. Happy motoring! IP: Logged |
|
Berky Junior Member Posts: 5 |
Thanks a lot everyone for putting your input into my decision, but in a few months i'll be car shopping. i just bought a once in a lifetime chance for the price on these MB Quart speakers and sub for my M3 when i get it. so that went a bunch of money i saved for upgrades down the drain. but i think my final decision is that i am going to get a 96' or 97' instead of the 95' because stock it is faster, and i do not plan to be spending an arm and a leg anymore on upgrades. just a little bit...i want to run in the mid 13's. and i am pretty sure the 3.2 M3 runs a stock 14.0. thanks a lot everyone! Matt IP: Logged |
|
evannguyen Member Posts: 14 |
Good choice! Good luck on finding the right car. IP: Logged |
|
Keithman99 Junior Member Posts: 2 |
If you in the car and driver archives, it has a longterm test of a 95' and later on, a test of a 97 (I think) in a comparison. I know that being that these are different tests, the numbers will be different, but consider this: the 95' showed consistent 5.5 0-60, and 14.0, and 14.2 quarter mile times, both new and after some miles, so the conditions changed, but it was still fast. Whereas the 97' showed a 6.0 second 0-60 time. Not conclusive, but enough to cause me to buy a 95' over a 98', that and the fact the conforti chip alone yield 19hp in the 5000rpm range, and a nice bump in torque from 2500 to 4500rpm for less than $350. -Keith IP: Logged |
|
avus95 unregistered |
hey matt, i got a 95 m3 with 5spd. and my brother got a S2000. we raced a couple of times to find out which one is faster, and the winner is: they are the same! we didn't start at dead stop. we use rolling start at about 10mph to eliminate any driver's skill and limit the clutch abuse on the car. we also switch drivers to make sure the results will not change. it didn't . we took it all the way to 120mph and we were both tied. hope this info will help you gauge the real world performance of m3. p.s. i thought my m3 would beat the s2000. since i got alot more torgue down low. IP: Logged |
|
avus95 unregistered |
hey matt, i got a 95 m3 with 5spd. and my brother got a S2000. we raced a couple of times to find out which one is faster, and the winner is: they are the same! we didn't start at dead stop. we use rolling start at about 10mph to eliminate any driver's skill and limit the clutch abuse on the car. we also switch drivers to make sure the results will not change. it didn't . we took it all the way to 120mph and we were both tied. hope this info will help you gauge the real world performance of m3. p.s. i thought my m3 would beat the s2000. since i got alot more torgue down low. IP: Logged |
|
Berky Junior Member Posts: 5 |
hey thanks a lot for your info. i was told that the 96'-99' M3s were the faster of the two. i heard that the newer ones were 0-60 in around 5.5 as the 95' was in 5.9 or so. and a 14.0 1/4 mile compared to a 14.4. because of the more tourque in the newer ones. Matt IP: Logged |
All times are ET (US) | next newest topic | next oldest topic |
![]() |
|
Copyright 1999 M3Forum.com All Rights Reserved
Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000
Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.45c