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mazdaspeed00 Junior Member Posts: 1 Registered: Nov 2001	posted 11-03-2001 03:17 AM I am thinking about getting a M3 because my dad has just crashed my 1995 RX-7. I would like to know the 0-60 times and the quarter mile times that a STOCK 95 M3 produces. As far as the RX-7 times are it does 0-60 in 4.9 sec with a quater mile of 13.9 I would also like to know how fast could you get a 95 M3 with Dinan stage 3 engine work and a supercharger. Sorry for all the questions I am new to the BMW scene. Thanks IP: Logged
Derek Member Posts: 43 Registered: Oct 2001	posted 11-03-2001 03:05 PM a stock 95 m3 runs bout a 0-60 time anywhere from 5.3-5.5. quarter mile i am not sure. i have read articles on the dinan stage 3 supercharged m3's and they were runnning 0-60 in under 4.8. i would get an m3 just because of the all round capabilities of the car. IP: Logged
eduardo gonçalves Member Posts: 74 Registered: Oct 2001	posted 11-05-2001 04:10 AM I can only share my opinion with you envolving the euro M3 vs RX-7 wich is equal to the ones you have in US. I am also a fan of this car because my friend has one. As you know, the M3 is more luxuous and gives you more "car feeling" but the mazda breaths supersport everywhere, and on the highway it is a "hard bone" to eat. The M3 is stronger in fifht gear but if you get distracted the MAZDA might crush your rear bumper. Eduardo G. IP: Logged
Reality unregistered	posted 11-05-2001 03:33 PM Who is smoking crack here? The 1995 RX-7 was quick, but very comparable to the 1995 M3. Check out the facts. The 0-60 times are 5.1 to 5.3 for the RX-7 and the times for the M3 are 5.3 to 5.5. As for the standing quarter mile, again, comparable. If you are going to smoke crack, dont come here to post. IP: Logged
DragM3 Member Posts: 5 Registered: Sep 2001	posted 11-05-2001 03:59 PM I agree. I have driven both RX-7s and M3s. No way could I see a stock RX-7 getting to 60 in less than 5 seconds. A M3 is going to get it off the line every time. As far as quarter mile the RX-7 will have time to build boost so the race will be close. Both comming in with low 14's. For overall driving RX-7s do feel good but they are very fragile cars. M3s are solid, agile, and you have got to love the torque! Happy Hunting IP: Logged
Battman Junior Member Posts: 3 Registered: Jul 2001	posted 11-11-2001 11:48 PM Hello all, About 3 years ago I traded in my 1993 RX-7 (same engine as 1995) for a 1995 M3. Having owned both cars, here's my 2 cents: If you want to talk performance, the RX-7 blows the M3 away. I firmly believe all the articles that put the RX-7 0-60 time in the 4.9-5.1s range. I'd say my M3 is more of a 6s 0-60 car. Top speed would go to the RX-7 too. Handling of the 2 cars is very different, but I think each are quite capable. Same for braking. Another point to make is that an M3 is very expensive to upgrade. A supercharged M3 will get you to RX-7 performance, but at the price of a 1994 RX-7... That said, I love my M3. It's 10 times the car the RX-7 is. After all, 0-60 in 6s isn't anything to be ashamed of. But add to that, a perfect balance of ride/performance, a very reliable, very comfortable sedan with room for twice the people and 5 times the luggage as the RX-7. Battman PS - I was forced to get rid of my RX-7 because the Mazda dealer couldn't figure out how to get it to pass emmissions - I'll bet I'll never have that issue with BMW. IP: Logged
Nike178 unregistered	posted 11-23-2001 05:58 PM quote: Originally posted by DragM3: I agree. I have driven both RX-7s and M3s. No way could I see a stock RX-7 getting to 60 in less than 5 seconds. A M3 is going to get it off the line every time. As far as quarter mile the RX-7 will have time to build boost so the race will be close. Both comming in with low 14's. For overall driving RX-7s do feel good but they are very fragile cars. M3s are solid, agile, and you have got to love the torque! Happy Hunting Hmmm, u say an m3 will get it off the line all the time. Well since i own an rx7, let me enlighten u. The rx7 will beat the m3 off the line period. That is one of the rx7's strengths. I ran a 13.9 with my car bone stock. So low 14's is inaccurate. They are very fragile but the rx7 is just a bit quicker. I guess it would come down to the drivers though. IP: Logged
BMW fanatic Junior Member Posts: 2 Registered: Nov 2001	posted 11-24-2001 03:28 PM mazda can suck my dick IP: Logged
dmc4cc Junior Member Posts: 4 Registered: Nov 2001	posted 12-02-2001 12:34 PM RX-7's SUCK, they break all the time. Handling definitely goes to the M3, remember, BEST HANDLING CAR IN AMERICA in any price range, it beat even the 355. In terms of upgrades I dunno what you are talking about, a Chip and exhaust get you up to around 280-290hp and 0-60's in low 5's high 4's. Just think about this, who ever succesfully races RX-7's in a prominent series? Think about this, its a MAZDA or a BMW. the RX is a piece, get a Bimmer. IP: Logged
Nike178 unregistered	posted 12-02-2001 08:52 PM quote: Originally posted by dmc4cc: RX-7's SUCK, they break all the time. Handling definitely goes to the M3, remember, BEST HANDLING CAR IN AMERICA in any price range, it beat even the 355. In terms of upgrades I dunno what you are talking about, a Chip and exhaust get you up to around 280-290hp and 0-60's in low 5's high 4's. Just think about this, who ever succesfully races RX-7's in a prominent series? Think about this, its a MAZDA or a BMW. the RX is a piece, get a Bimmer. First of all, u are being a bit biased considering u have an M3. I have an rx7 but i am being as honest as possible. I have driven an M3 before so i can talk. It was a 98. U probably never driven an rx7 before so u shouldnt talk if u don't know the facts. The M3 is very quick but WILL NOT stay with an rx7 on top end speeds. It will be close though. Twin turbos vs Naturally aspirated--rx7 wins. Also, the power vs weight ratio is an advantage to the rx7. The rx7 stock has 255 hp to the M3's 240. Also, the rx7 is at least 300 pds lighter to add to the advantage. Stock vs Stock the rx7 is just quicker. If u dont believe me, go and drive one before u look like an idiot. Better yet, go race one and get humiliated. Odds are the rx7 that u race is gonna be modded. Also, u want to talk about handling?? The skidpad on the rx7 stock is .98 vs M3's .95 Also the rx7 goes through the slalom at almost 70mph. The M3 is a little slower. So where do u see the M3 outhandling an rx7. Get ur facts straight. I dont care what Motor Trend says about the best handling car in America. Im strictly about numbers here. And don't go saying an rx7 is a piece of shit either. People have this misconception that they break all the time. That is not true. Mine never broke once. It's the people bringing the cars to the dealers and being that those idiots dont know shit about rotary engines, they say the car needs a new engine when simply a hose is just loose. This is the one japenese car that handles, accelerates, and has awesome stopping power for like $15,000 less than an M3. I suggest u go read up. IP: Logged
jinu117 Junior Member Posts: 3 Registered: Nov 2001	posted 12-03-2001 02:25 PM Can't believe some people belive stock to stock M3 is faster or better handler than RX-7. More comparible car to compare would have been M coupe vs RX-7 not an M3. If anyone here says M3 is faster and better handler than M3... we got some crisis at hand. The problem with RX-7 is that, 1) They stopped making it in US since 95 (meaning you can't really get a newer one) 2) Mazda dealers were not trained well enough on how to fix rotor motor correctly. Other than those two, the RX-7 was an awesome driver's car. Hopefully, Mazda will do better with RX-8 if it comes in US. I am not saying M3 is inferior car. It is proven to be more reliable, more general purpose car. In fact, the crowd these two are aiming is totally different! (Hence, my suggestion to compare M coupe vs RX-7). If someone starts mentioning about modding a M3 or RX-7 on comparison.... I will just mention what similar $ spend modded turbo civic can do to either of this cars IP: Logged
Type H unregistered	posted 12-03-2001 03:22 PM My friend has a modified twin turbo RX-7 with larger ARC intercoolers & higher boost. It's not a crazy drag car but I saw from standing start it was like a bullet & beaten all Euro 3.0 & 3.2 M3s by a few car lengths in 1st gear (M3s looked stunted) & keep pulling away in 2nd!! (different country) No street piston engine is faster than a rotary spinning up pulling so little weight. The street was a short strip so I will not extrapolate this into a 1/4 mile race but a lightly modified RX-7 will win most +3,000lbs cars 0-60 for sure. From published data Dinan supercharged can almost catch up with stock F355 & stock 911 Turbo, are we comparing "stock" streets only? Also note some Japan version RX-7 is hotter than US version in stock form. Of course charge up the car & dial in a lot of boost any car can win but drivability, reliability & the pocket $$$ is ruined. Fancy RX-7 is fragile in many ways (it blew a hose very soon after beating M3s) & a bitch to service whereas M3s are solid steel daily car easy to drive & take care. They can't be fairly compared but both are well balanced cars. IP: Logged
gmonsen Member Posts: 6 Registered: Dec 2001	posted 12-04-2001 07:25 PM I have a modded 1995 rx7 (single turbo with about 425 hp to ground). the rx7's are very fast even stock, but, as someone pointed out, not very reliable unless you do the right base mods. the rx7 probably outhandles all stock e36 m3's. the m3 is much more of a quality built car in both materials and construction. personally, i think the earlier e30 m3 handles a good bit better than the e36. i had one and am in the market for another one. anybody know where there's a primo e30 for sale? thanks, gordon IP: Logged
Type H unregistered	posted 12-05-2001 09:00 AM Yes, RX-7 is so nimble & CG is so low... almost scraping your ... Another real low down street car is Lotus Elise but this is a totally different story. You can try online BMW rings & bulletins or do a search on "E30 M3 for sale", they have many good cars but caveat emptor. Try UK sites for right hand drive. IP: Logged
Beau Member Posts: 78 Registered: Nov 2001	posted 12-05-2001 07:56 PM Since you bring up the Elise and RX-7 in the same message... How about a '94 Miata + FM-II turbokit (or homebrew your own), suspension mods and other things... How does 1G on the skidpad and 250 rwhp in a 2300 lb. car (high 12s) for $12-15k total sound? - Beau IP: Logged
Type H unregistered	posted 12-06-2001 10:29 AM Modified Miata is real sleeper killing many unsuspecting cars. If you just want the thrills of "killing" then MX-5 is of course the best buy of out 3. However, it's not new, has a small physical presence so it can't turn as many heads. It really depends on your mindset & lifestyle... i.e. you want your last laugh in your thriller Miata for 12~15K? hot rodding RX-7 to pick up babes too? or classy multitasking M3 to carry your partner & ski/golf bag. As one Miata owner pointed out, he ran out of thrill killing so many cars & gone "mellow". It boils down to whether can you live with your final choice... minding one has lesser chance of getting sick of true classic cars! IP: Logged
eduardo gonçalves Member Posts: 74 Registered: Oct 2001	posted 12-06-2001 11:00 AM I cant believe you`re still talking about mazdas and miatas. I thought this was a topic from the past. Is this an M3 fórum or a "mixed fórum? Eduardo IP: Logged
Beau Member Posts: 78 Registered: Nov 2001	posted 12-06-2001 06:54 PM This thread is a performance-minded comparo, is it not? Other cars were brought up and it certainly is fitting. IMO this forum could use the traffic, compared to places like bimmerforums and dtmpower it's practically dead. Anyway, I was the one who brought up my late Miata in the thread on drag racing (IIRC, the only other time I mentioned the car in some 40+ posts I've made on this site). Suffice to say I really miss the little thing and will probably buy another down the road for sporadic use... probably do an NA build instead. - Beau [This message has been edited by Beau (edited 12-06-2001).] IP: Logged
Mark Member Posts: 10 Registered: Dec 2001	posted 12-13-2001 09:08 AM I have extensive driving time in RX-7's. Here's my two cents. Don't buy an M3 based on 0-60 times. Leave that to the "kids". If you want a car that does it all well, go for the M3. If your stuck on .whatever seconds buy a motorcycle. If you want a car that makes you smile every time you turn the key go for the bimmer. Since the first time I drove my M3 I haven't thought for one second about what driving an RX-7 was like untill I read your question and all the replies from those that have not logged extended time behind the wheel of an M3. Spend hours at speed in both vehicles and see how you feel -I have - I'd take the M3 again. quote: Originally posted by mazdaspeed00: I am thinking about getting a M3 because my dad has just crashed my 1995 RX-7. I would like to know the 0-60 times and the quarter mile times that a STOCK 95 M3 produces. As far as the RX-7 times are it does 0-60 in 4.9 sec with a quater mile of 13.9 I would also like to know how fast could you get a 95 M3 with Dinan stage 3 engine work and a supercharger. Sorry for all the questions I am new to the BMW scene. Thanks IP: Logged
Audiogod007 unregistered	posted 01-05-2002 10:06 PM I would just like to say that I am a lightly modified 88 RX-7 owner and also an owner of a motorsports business. I have done both newer RX-7's and E36 M3's and can tell you first of all that best handling car in america comes in only as 95 was the last import year for the third gen RX-7, and I would like to see the date on the article. If you read SCC(sport compact car) or any other "tuner" mag. in their ultimate sports car comp. you will find that the RX-7 dominates on road courses and skidpads alike. My RX-7 with no more than 1500$ invested is a 12 second car with good reliability. RX-7 is a baby when it comes to denotation, so you have to treat it right, but if you look up the definition of a sports car, you will find it stating without back seats.....Both are very capable cars, and my next purchase will be an E36 which is why I am hear, but heed the warning that if you bark up an RX-7 in good running order stock VS stock or modded VS modded, be ready to be beaten from 0-your govener. No flame, just how it is. Thanks Luke Owner/Technician LSJ² Motorworks LSJSquared@hotmail.com IP: Logged
RedTT Junior Member Posts: 1 Registered: Jan 2002	posted 01-07-2002 07:43 PM I've been reading and not post for awhile and I can not believe what I'm hearing here. An M3 faster than an RX7?? We are talking about a true sports car compared to a luxury car. That last sentence alone is enough to answer all questions. The RX7 beat the Skyline, 3000GT, 300ZX, Supra, NSX, and many other japanese supercars on the autocross track. DO you really think the M3 can beat any of those cars. I think it would whip a 3000GT's ass but other than that, it will be barely hanging on. M3's are nice luxury cars and handles nicer than any car I've driven in but as far as taking it to the limits, it's hands down to the RX7 IP: Logged
ARC M Power Member Posts: 71 Registered: Feb 2002	posted 02-01-2002 01:01 AM I dont know how many of you will read this, but I've been into many many drags. And hell yea three of my friends have RX-7. Two are 450+ hrspower, the third is about 350. ALL THREE GOT UPGRADED TURBO and running pretty high boost when they raced me. I have a '97 M3, got cat-back exhaust, intake, chip, etc. So what... I could beat 2 out of 3 of the RX-7's. It really depends on the driveer first of all. Secondly, from 0-60, my friend's 450 hrspower RX7 lost to me. The fact is when we take off, we were about the same, once his turbo kicks in, he passes me BUT which also means he will approach to the redline quicker than I will. BELIEVE ME M3's transmission is way better than RX7's. once he shifts, i pass him. and RX7 fishtails pretty outrageous. so i can say 0-60 M3 has the potential to beat RX-7. BUT QUARTER MILE... RX7 will smoke M3 no matter what (only in drag). if you're the "High-way" type, M3 is way better, like someone else said before i posted this one up, M3's got excellent handling!!! Well after all, it really depends how you build your car up and how you drive. But M3 isnt any weaker than RX7. (I also beat supra twin-turbocharged running 21 boost by 1 car). Now it's up to you to believe or not. M3 smokes! IP: Logged
Lootcheeano Member Posts: 20 Registered: Dec 2001	posted 02-01-2002 06:31 AM I'm gonna go with Mark and what he said about actually driving both & then deciding for yourself. Before I bought my 95' M3, I was ready to pick up a nice white '95 RX-7. I was totally convinced that the RX-7 was the car for me. My Godfather has a '93 RX-7 and used to let me take it out on the weekends for fun. Let me tell you, the RX-7 has nuts! There is no denying that. My Godfather's RX was stock and I could eat almost anything that pulled up next to me at the street races. A week before I was to finalize the purchase of the '95 RX, a friend told me to try the M3. The power of the M3 was no disappointment to me at all. I was so surprised that the M3 had so much to offer in a I-6 without any turbos or supercharger. When I was in the RX-7, it felt like I was in an aluminum can compared to the rock solid feeling of an M3. I had an instant change of heart, M3 all the way. I bought the M3 and would do it again and again. RX-7's are nice, but the M3 is THE BEST car to have for every reason you can think of period. IP: Logged
DominikM3 Junior Member Posts: 1 Registered: Feb 2002	posted 02-05-2002 08:17 PM I drove an 93 rx7 and all i can say is that i would smoke it with my old car. ------------------ 90' G60 Sold :( 98' M3 :) IP: Logged

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